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You've seen and heard it all before: Wrongheaded Muni employees enforcing a ban on photography that isn't actually Muni policy. Most recently, a local...

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Fuck the fare inspectors. They are NOT COPS. THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY BEYOND INSPECTING PROOF OF PAYMENT.

Perhaps if they got their lazy asses off the Metro trains and on some tough bus lines, fare collection would be up. Instead they have their heads up their asses hassling people who are not committing crimes.

Fuck 'em. I'm sick and tired of the culture of lazy incompetent asinine bullshit that passes for a work environment at MUNI.

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What the hell is "disruptive photography" anyway? Photography, unless you're a shitheel paparazzi, is by its very nature non-disruptive.

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Photography that impedes transit or the work of transit operators. Blocking the doors, aisles, getting in the driver's way, stuff like that.

It's common sense stuff, but I think it's understandable why they'd want to call that out, because while I know y'all are considerate, think about all the folks you know who think that there is nothing more important than their god-given right to get a shot. Which, in some circumstances, sure, but please don't make me miss my stop because you're trying to take your vacation video and you need to block the back door. You know?

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FIRED!

I wonder, out of the three, how many have any higher education?

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well, this is a tricky one.

sure the kid has a right to film in public, but it appears that he was instigating a response (which he got) from those Fare Inspectors. granted, he cannot be sued for putting this online -- but he shouldnt be provoking a response either just for the sake of putting it on the internet.

regardless of whether this youngster was right or wrong -- you are absolutely right, Muni needs a publicly posted policy and needs it sooner rather than later. if for no other reason than Muni employees and Muni riders have a mutual understanding of what the policy is; which would help eliminate unnecessary confrontations such as this.

its a tough issue, but very relevant. almost everyone these days has some sort of camera on their cell phone or in their pocket. and the tools needed to photograph are more accessible than ever, as is being able to push them to a large audience. i guess the question is, are we, as a public body, to expect no privacy while in public? it seems to me that their is no way around it.

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Did somebody get detained for 20 minutes over this? It's not really a detention unless you try to walk away and you get stopped. That could be false imprisonment, potentially.

Tripods would be an example of something that could impede MUNI's business.

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I don't understand why there's a misunderstanding ... if you're out in public, you can be filmed. If the kid were planning to sell the images, I guess that's another story .... but initially filming shouldn't be a problem (especially in publicly owned vehicles that alert us we're being filmed by the government agency).

I agree with Greg that the inspectors need to spread out onto the bus lines ..... I wrote a letter to the editor of The Examiner a year or two ago praising the inspector program, but mentioning that it is tiresome to live downtown and get checked multiple times on one ride because the inspectors don't seem to go outside of the 5 underground stations along Market Street (with occasional appearances at 2nd Street and Folsom/Harrison platforms for events).

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Oops ... make that 7 stations ... I've been riding BART with my MUNI Fast Pass more than MUNI lately .... sorry Church and Castro stations ...

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So the MUNI Fair Inspector wanted to PERSONALLY sue this person and asked to see his ID so he could get information so he could sue.

That would be using his official authority for personal gain, which would be misuse of said authority, which is an offense worthy of termination.

I certainly hope someone brings that up in whatever investigation is proceeding.

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plug1 confusingly states, "but he shouldnt be provoking a response".

If the response is not warranted based on law - then he's pefectly well within his rights to provoke it - if he knows that in doing so, MUNI will be found (once again) to be the ill-mannered, rude, belligerent bastards that they show themselves to be on a daily basis.

Provocation - to these cretins - is merely looking at them sideways.

I say we ALL start filming them and provoke them into an early heart attack.

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