SF MTA Head "disappointed and perplexed" By Muni Drivers' Rejection Of Concessions Intended To Restore Service
As reported by the Chron, Streetsblog, CBS5, and ABC7, Muni drivers Friday night voted to reject a series of concessions expected to save Muni $19...
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kl2real said:
June 12, 2010 11:38 AM
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I ride Muni, and I vote. I can't wait to correct this mistake in November. These thugs need to be put in their place.
smskater said:
June 12, 2010 6:23 PM
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You know, I didn't like the outcome of the Lt. Governor's race. Let's revote.
Ciaran said:
June 12, 2010 11:56 PM
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Dear Nat Ford, I don't pay you $300k to be 'perplexed'.
scuz75 said:
June 13, 2010 3:03 AM
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So the Mayor and SF MTA head are both calling for an immediate re-vote? This WAS the re-vote.
It's time that the Mayor stop looking to blame the operators for the cause of, and the sole solution to this deficit and call on the business community to buck up and pay their fair share for the transportation that gets their workers to their jobs. The working population did not cause the global economic crisis and should not be expected to bear the entire responsibility of fixing it.
bagpuss said:
June 13, 2010 7:41 AM
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Mr. Ford should show willing as well and take a 10% paycut on his (by most people's standard's) HUGE $300K+ salary ...
Alex Zepeda said:
June 13, 2010 12:26 PM
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If Lum is signing off on this, why aren't rank and file? So this is the second time that rank and file have voted down a proposal... does this mean that Irwin Lum is out of touch with his prols? Or that the TWU is negotiating in bad faith? Did Lum even bring the proposal to the rank and file? Quite frankly, I'd be perplexed too if I was in the same situation. Something smells, and this time it ain't Nat Ford.
See also:
http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/17/muni-operators-union-didnt-do-enough-to-inform-members-about-proposal/
scuz75 said:
June 13, 2010 1:09 PM
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What smells is that TWU executive board is not listening to it's members.
scuz75 said:
June 13, 2010 1:11 PM
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By the way, Lum is AWOL
supertamsf said:
June 14, 2010 1:05 PM
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Muni workers won't consent to having to work 40 hours a week before collecting overtime. Just wanted to restate how WACK that is.
Mike said:
June 14, 2010 2:08 PM
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@supertamsf, not entirely WACK. The law requires OT for hours over 8 in a single work shift or for hours over 40 in a single work week. I used to work part time at a place that was open very late one night per week. I worked 6 hours for 3 shifts, and 10 hours on that one night, so I got OT for a couple of hours even though I usually averaged 28 hours a week. I think you even get double time for hours over 12 in a single shift.
Still, I don't think it is unreasonable to try and limit OT pay right now by getting rid of the 8 hour requirement. Management could potentially abuse this and put everyone on 11.5 hour shifts, which I would not support as it makes for tired operators. But if a set of bus trips requires 8.5 hours to staff properly, it would be nice for that to be an option that doesn't require OT.
Equiman said:
June 15, 2010 2:27 PM
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I believe this letter to Chronicle editor presents an intelligent,
counter the mainstream thinking, argument:
"Saluting the drivers
The San Francisco Gray Panthers salutes the Muni drivers who resisted the pressure of downtown business, the mayor's office, The Chronicle and the Examiner, and some supervisors in rejecting the concessions the city is trying to force down their throats.
Muni service cuts, fare increases and financial problems are not caused by drivers' greed or the riders' fare evasion; they are caused by downtown business refusing to pay for the service Muni provides in bringing them customers and workers.
We recognize that the same forces that attack Muni drivers and riders are also attacking the city services we need to survive - health and human services, housing and nutrition. Thoughtful city workers in other unions should support the drivers because the drivers' refusal to make concessions and their crucial position in the city's economy could make the city think twice about demanding more concessions from them. This could save jobs and services.
We demand: no service cuts or fare increases for San Francisco's poor, seniors, minorities and immigrants. Make downtown business pay for the services they receive. Drivers and riders should unite to demand more public transit, not less
M.L.Gray Panthers"
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/15/ED7C1DUUTM.DTL#ixzz0qxUAcU2w